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Elv15
May 30th, 2008, 08:18 PM
http://www.vidalinternationalspeedway.com/

Boxologist
May 30th, 2008, 09:06 PM
holy engrish batman!

we have a few of the type tracks popping up in the northeast. i don't believe any of them will be succesfull to remain open if they even build without 100% funding.

mopho
May 31st, 2008, 05:38 AM
holy engrish batman!

we have a few of the type tracks popping up in the northeast. i don't believe any of them will be succesfull to remain open if they even build without 100% funding.

Have you seen this one? http://www.monticellomotorclub.com

They are clients of mine, I supplied many of the photos for the website

mopho
May 31st, 2008, 05:43 AM
Just missed the opportunity to buy the Chrysler Proving Grounds, it was only $215 Million

Boxologist
May 31st, 2008, 01:03 PM
Have you seen this one? http://www.monticellomotorclub.com

They are clients of mine, I supplied many of the photos for the website

one of thoe locals who runs w/ the PCA groups got hired on with them. the reception from most active drivers is the same as the Lime Rock park fiasco.

if the people who can afford to buy in do, these will be essentially golf course with out golfers. cars will seldom be driven. even less frequently will someone who can drive will use the trac to near its potential. so the lawn maitenence crew will be the only ones with regular employment.

Elv15
May 31st, 2008, 01:47 PM
Have you seen this one? http://www.monticellomotorclub.com

They are clients of mine, I supplied many of the photos for the website

It looks great! I would love to buy into something like this - if it was a bit (well - a lot) more affordable. 200+ track days per year! Yee Haw! I think I'd need a whole stable full of cars though.

Mopho, the pics look great btw. :)

mopho
May 31st, 2008, 02:18 PM
one of thoe locals who runs w/ the PCA groups got hired on with them. the reception from most active drivers is the same as the Lime Rock park fiasco.

if the people who can afford to buy in do, these will be essentially golf course with out golfers. cars will seldom be driven. even less frequently will someone who can drive will use the trac to near its potential. so the lawn maitenence crew will be the only ones with regular employment.


Not familiar with the Lime Rock fiasco?

Having had the luxury of having tracks to myself a few times, I would be all over this if I had that kind of money. I think it would be awesome.



It looks great! I would love to buy into something like this - if it was a bit (well - a lot) more affordable. 200+ track days per year! Yee Haw! I think I'd need a whole stable full of cars though.

Mopho, the pics look great btw. :)


Thanks, there was supposed to be a Seven picture on there, doesn't appear they ended up using it

moosetestbestanden
June 2nd, 2008, 08:43 AM
I hate that kind of bullshit elitist, gated community approach to motorsports. Who wants to hang around w/ a bunch of snot rich f**ks while they sniff and watch Jeeves polish their cars? I very much prefer it down here in the dirt w/ all the $2.00 racers like me, and even the rich ones who aren't like me but they're out racing / competing against the me's of the world. The camaraderie is awesome.

Sean
June 2nd, 2008, 10:49 AM
A few points in reply to Chris's rant:

I'm pretty sure I would love having a track all to myself every now and then.
If I could afford Jeeves' services, he'd be in the East wing of the garage polishing and maintaining my fleet of cars right now, but I wouldn't be watching him (I'd be disciplining those naughty maids or something).
If I felt like wrenching, I'd just give Jeeves the month off, paid.
Lots of "snot rich folks" (NOTE: Chris, you seem to have misspelled "folks" above) are decent people, although there does seem to be a smaller percentage of them in that particular category.

I think the only thing I wholeheartedly agree with is the sniffing thing. I think all that sniffing would grate on me very quickly.

I guess I just don't equate a semi-private or club-owned track with elitism, which I dislike as much as anybody. It's not like they're talking about buying up Buttonwillow, Thunderhill, and Willow Springs to take them private. The guy just wants to build a track in the middle of nowhere to hoon about with his wealthy buddies. Rock on. Capitalism - go figure.

JohnCh
June 2nd, 2008, 12:28 PM
We are getting something similar (http://www.pnwmotorsportspark.com/index.html) about 4 hours south of Seattle in Boardman, OR. Apparently they plan to generate additional income by renting the track out to the local clubs on weekends.

-John

moosetestbestanden
June 2nd, 2008, 06:36 PM
guess I just don't equate a semi-private or club-owned track with elitism

You've never actually belonged to any country clubs, have you old boy?:D

Sean
June 2nd, 2008, 11:03 PM
I think the difference that I perceive is that with country clubs, it seems that all of the best golf courses are private, and almost all of the courses available to the general public are significantly inferior. There are very few exceptions.

With race tracks, it seems to be the other way around. Of course, if one can afford to build one's own track, renting out any track is a feasible option (and would be the way to go, IMO).

And to answer your question: No, I have never belonged to any country clubs. I have hacked up some great country club courses as a guest though!

mopho
June 4th, 2008, 02:30 AM
Article

Motive Magazine: Members Only- Motorsports country clubs (http://www.motivemag.com/pub/feature/lists/Motive_List_Members_Only_-_No_golf_carts_needed_at_these_motorsport_country_clubs.shtml)

Boxologist
June 4th, 2008, 03:47 PM
Pac NW and Prarie hills look like fun in my 7.

VIR Motorsport CC and Motorsport ranch have pricing structures i could live with. out here its 35k+ to start at min 5k/year. Skip Barber was aking/weaseling for 100k up front!